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Bond V Bourne again!

Post by Tigertash » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:16 am

Here is an article I just had alert for, reading peoples comments after the article is very intresting and pleasing :wink: :lol:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... ertainment

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Post by Germangirl » Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:56 pm

Some other comments about this from entertainment weekly, which I found yesterday. I don´t know about you, but I like to read these things and to make it more enjoyable, here are just the pro Dan comments - but he did win over Bourne/Damon here, too as in the imbd poll - and that seems to be the point; Daniel wins over Damon, not Bond over Bourne :D


Lana Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 09:46 PM EST
Bond. Only if it's Daniel playing. He's effective in bringing down the baddies then walks away like a Calvin Klein model. Bourne's a rough cut.

monica Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 07:18 PM EST
i think jason bourne would kick "james bond's" ass, but not daniel craig's ass.

Ruby Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 02:51 PM EST
Noticing that this debate is really spilt in half. I have to say I'm having a hard time choosing myself. Before Daniel Craig's Bond, I might have said Bourne, but since Craig walked out of that water with those shorts, looking so manly (hard to do being English b/c mostly they are pretty) & yummy, it's really tough choice. So leaning towards Bond, he's a classic.

Hutchy Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 02:49 PM EST
Here is the nearly-fatal flaw of the Bourne movies: Julia Stiles. Here is the ACTUAL fatal flaw of the Bourne movies: Bourne Supremacy sucked. That has to be one of the most overrated movies of the last 5 years. When Joan Allen was like "You want to go home tonight? GET ME JASON BOURNE!!" I actually burst out laughing in the middle of the theater at the pure cheesy cliche campiness of that moment. Granted, Bourne Identity blew away any of the post-Goldeneye Brosnan Bonds, no doubt, but come on...Casino Royale??!?!? AKA most Kick-a$$ action movie in years?? Just ask yourself this: will Bourne ever have a moment as cool as when Bond comes back to the poker table after nearly dying of poison, looking like he just went for a little afternoon stroll, and the villain is sitting there looking like he needs a clean pair of shorts? Matt Damon (even in the Oceans movies) has to work 5 times as hard to look 1/10th as cool as Daniel Craig. Case Closed.

clare-clare Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 01:39 PM EST
Yeah yeah I'm gonna still go w/ CASINO ROYALE completely pilfered a lot of its new style from the Bourne movies... but you're right. It surpassed them.
Bourne might be able to kick some ass and emote in a realistic way...
but Bond (and by this I of course mean Daniel Craig) is sooooo effortless, sexy, cool, smartass and just plain badass!

meb3q Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 12:58 PM EST
That's really tough. I concede the point on the magazine beatdown--classic--but Daniel Craig is hot and Casino Royale rejuvenated an otherwise dying series. With that said, I'll wimp out and say both.

Catherine Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 12:54 PM EST
Bond, without a doubt. (especially if is Daniel Craig!!)

Crystal Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 12:13 PM EST
Love Identity and Royale. I'll go with Bond to make out with and Bourne to kick some ass, BUT Daniel Craig really made the ass kicking work too... This is really hard...

aramis Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 11:52 AM EST
When it comes to the question of Matt vs. Daniel...Uhm, Daniel, no contest. But Bourne vs. Bond...one is timeless, one is new...it's like asking Aretha or Beyonce? While each is good in their own right, it's hard to compare. It also depends on who's playing Bond because Craig was perfect as Bond, where if you had Tim Dalton's Bond vs. Bourne, I mean there's no other option but to choose Bourne. Which again poses the question: Damon or Craig? And I've already answered that...

Jane Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 11:39 AM EST
Daniel Craig is freaking hot. No way can pug-ugly Matt Damon out style Craig. And besides, its Bond. Enough said.
Suz Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 11:37 AM EST
I've seen Casino Royale but none of the Bourne movies, so perhaps I'm not the best one to judge, but if it's strictly Daniel Craig

Mozz Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 10:14 AM EST
Without the James Bond movies, there would have not been a Bourne film to reinvent them. But Daniel Craig as Bond obliterated Jason Bourne off the screen. I'm gonna have to go with BOND on this one.
vs. Matt Damon, Craig wins hands down. He is the best James Bond I've seen and he's reinvigorated the series.

Melanie Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 09:23 AM EST
I would be Daniel Craig's Bond Girl anyday but if I were looking strictly at the charachters (and not the actors) I'd have to go with Bourne b/c he doesn't need the fancy gadgets and seems to be more of a thinker in addition to action hero when compared to James Bond. Sort of comparing a Ginsu knife to a blunt instrument . . .

Ed Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 09:16 AM EST
James Bond A.K.A Daniel Craig, ever since he came out in those powder blue swimming trunks, I've become a fan. I'm not one to watch these type of movies but when you give me a hunk of flesh to look at, I'm there.

Anna Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 09:13 AM EST
Bond, James Bond! How can you even compare three decent movies with centuries of classic Bond movies?! Plus, Daniel Craig is WAY hotter that Matt Damon... blue swimming shorts anyone?!

While Bourne is badass, he's kind of an empty vessel (then again the reason we don't know that much about him is because he doesn't know that much about himself)
Not only is the new Bond genuinely badass, but Craig's Bond has killer style, the cars and he's got that legendary touch with the ladies.

emma Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 07:28 AM EST
James Bond, no question. Especially now that Daniel Craig is playing him.
The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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Post by Sophie » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:02 pm

:D wow... people have great taste 8)
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Post by sharmaine » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:29 pm

Interesting this......
I was actually impressed by Matt in his original portrayal of Jason Bourne in the Bourne Identity. I was not into Bond for so long that this movie did interest me in the same sort of way and I thought it was well done....until

DANIEL CRAIG
oh how that name is branded in my head these days

Sorry, Matt (you are still young) and will probably have a following but Dan wins it hands down for me as Bond vs. Bourne!

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Post by Germangirl » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:21 am

Pretty much like this one

Matt Damon (even in the Oceans movies) has to work 5 times as hard to look 1/10th as cool as Daniel Craig. Case Closed.

As we know, Dan doesn´t try to be cool, because that would be just soo uncool. Guess that´s the secret.
The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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Post by Tigertash » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:27 am

Yes thats what I thought when I seen link that there was loads of good comments on there :D

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Post by jovichick » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:44 am

Daniel - I hope you get to read these comments because you deserve all the recognition. You don't have to PLAY/ACT it cool....you're NATURALLY cool. 8) I vote Bond, the Bourne stuff has no class - the Bond character oozes class (especially with our man at the helm)
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Post by gugita14 » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:27 pm

I vote Bond.(For obvious reasons) Never really liked the Bourne movies. This fact is also true, the Bond franchise has been around for such a longer time that there's no comparison. Daniel Craig's Bond actually shows a human being and not a robot. He kicks major @$$ and will always look cool while doing it.

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Post by Cyanaurora » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:37 pm

gugita14 wrote:I vote Bond.(For obvious reasons) Never really liked the Bourne movies. This fact is also true, the Bond franchise has been around for such a longer time that there's no comparison. Daniel Craig's Bond actually shows a human being and not a robot. He kicks major @$$ and will always look cool while doing it.
I agree, Bourne seems very one dimensional.

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Post by Loofah » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:44 pm

I got the new issue of Entertainment Weekly and this is what Matt Damon has to say about James Bond, and about the similarities to his Bourne movies:
EW: I think a lot of people see these movies as what Bond movies should be, and that's why the most recent Bond took a darker, more realistic turn.

MD: But the characters are fundamentally different.

EW: Well, they're both action movies, they both have exotic, globe-trotting locales, and they're espionage movies.

MD: Well, yeah. But I mean, James Bond is an imperialist, misogynist guy who slurps martinis and f---ing laughs and kills people and cracks jokes. Whereas Bourne is this tortured serial monogamist whose girlfriend is dead and he won't look at another woman and carries tremendous guilt and shame about the things he's done.

EW: But that's exactly how they made the latest James Bond.

MD: I didn't see it. I bumped into Pierce Brosnan and he was like, "You can't update the character because he's a character of the '60s." In fact, it's so crazy to try and update him that Mike Myers made a really good franchise out of showing what happens when you try to do it.
OK, 3 thoughts:

1.) Um, yeah, it's glaringly obvious that Damon hasn't seen "Casino Royale."

2.) I wonder what Daniel might have to say about the Bourne franchise?

3.) Pierce Brosnan: Sour grapes much?
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Post by sharmaine » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:55 pm

OUCH!

Matt & Pierce
Get your facts straight before you put your foot in your mouth!

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Post by Loofah » Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:05 am

They sound like a couple of kids in the sandbox whining because they didn't get to dress up in the Batman costume. :roll:

"Well, I didn't want it anyway."

"Yeah, it's a STOOOOPID costume."
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Post by Cyanaurora » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:43 am

I recall Matt Damon saying that the quotes were taken out of context and that isn't what he said. We know it has been done to our Daniel, so maybe we should give Matt the benefit of the doubt?

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Post by Loofah » Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:56 am

Was he talking about the interview in the brand new issue of Entertainment Weekly? If so, that's surprising because it's printed as a direct transcript of a conversation between Damon and the reporter. (I just copied the bit that concerned Bond, but it was part of a long cover story about him.)

That said, it wouldn't be the first time a celebrity had his words twisted and used against him. :?
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Post by Cyanaurora » Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:11 am

I am not sure what interview he was talking about. And Maybe Matt was just back pedaling as fast as he could. But, reporters love to make people look bad.

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