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Some reaction from MI6 :lol:

Sam Worthington as Bond?

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Luna - I haven´t seen the Brit press about this, but from what I read just about everywhere else, people are VERY much in favour of DC and want him to stay in the role.

Actually the reactions I saw rather built up a good PR for Daniel about how important he is to the franchise.

But - to be totally fair - the Brit Press doesn´t have lots of reasons to be gentle with him. I think, he ALWAYS treated them like some very unwelcome necessity (as understandable as it may be) and they only pay back. So - its a dislike on both sides with the press having the power - unfortunately. Since fairness is never an issue with the press, the right of privacy doesn´t esist for them.
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The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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Dunda wrote: I agree with hits and they have been greater but better?? :wink:

Terminator was entertaining but average and Avatar was great, but not due to the actors. It was the stunning scenery and new technique that made this movie that good.

I think Sam has yet to prove that he can carry a movie only by the sheer craft of his acting.
:stick_iagree: .....and in the UK both Terminator and Clash of the Titans were considered something of flops.

Both took some money, not as much as expected and didn't live up to the hype. Terminator got slammed here as "Terminator Stagnation". Clash of the Titans didn't do much better.

Germangirl wrote: Luna - I haven´t seen the Brit press about this, but from what I read just about everywhere else, people are VERY much in favour of DC and want him to stay in the role.

Actually the reactions I saw rather built up a good PR for Daniel about how important he is to the franchise.
Yup - that's the view I've been seeing the newspapers. The main speculation ("worry") is that Daniel will move on to bigger and better things and three items I read mentioned both DH and C&A as being in the pipeline, the inference being that if Eon/MGM don't fix this soon, Daniel will be too busy and too removed from the role artistically. His age seemed to be a foot-note rather than an issue.
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JEC57 wrote: Yup - that's the view I've been seeing the newspapers. The main speculation ("worry") is that Daniel will move on to bigger and better things and three items I read mentioned both DH and C&A as being in the pipeline, the inference being that if Eon/MGM don't fix this soon, Daniel will be too busy and too removed from the role artistically. His age seemed to be a foot-note rather than an issue.
I really feel, that as long as he has the feeling, he has something essential to give to the franchise and feels wanted by the public and the prods - he will do the next, nevernmind what and when.
The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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From Jojo Moyes, who incidently was busy tweeting about it yesterday..
(see dc twitter thread)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film ... er-up.html

Oh Daniel! Say it isn't so! I had coped admirably with ruptured travel plans, and bore the lack of fresh fruit salad with fortitude. I was even holding up under the wearying onslaught of yah-booing grey men that constitutes election coverage. But news that we may have seen Daniel Craig's last Bond was enough to get me finally hyperventilating into my cornflakes.

With the future of Metro Goldwyn Mayer looking decidedly shaky, producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson announced this week that they were shelving the 23rd Bond film until MGM's financial problems were resolved.


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Men are redundant, but let's keep them anywayCraig said diplomatically that he had "every faith" in the decision. But industry insiders say that by the time shooting begins – 2012 at the earliest - Craig may walk, or worse, be considered "past it". William Hill yesterday offered odds of 8/1 that we have already seen the last of him as Bond.

I admit that when he was first mooted for the part, I was less than enthusiastic. How could festering Geordie Peacock from Our Friends In The North inhabit that iconic tuxedo with grace and élan? How could that thuggish visage expertly seduce women with ridiculously suggestive names? For this was a man apparently known even to his friends as "Mr Potato Head".

Fool that I was! For even as he emerged from the shadows in the opening scenes of Casino Royale I was a lost thing. By the time he broke the waves in those little blue trunks I may have inadvertently – and for the first time in my life – uttered the phrase "Hubba hubba". When he held Vesper Lynd brokenly in his arms, it was frankly a bit embarrassing being in the same room as my actual husband. And I know there are women nodding as they read this, because they have told me.

Casino Royale, it is fair to say, is not a date movie. Not unless your husband looks, sounds and behaves like Daniel Craig as James Bond.

It takes a serious dose of raw machismo to remain the object of female desire even while having one's testicles flayed from under a chair, but Craig managed it. Men liked his rough quality, the slight coarsening of the Bond franchise. Women just… yes, well. I think we've covered that.

Craig didn't look like the Bonds we had become used to; the slightly Man At C&A look of Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and even Piers Brosnan's Bonds. (Go on, imagine them in a belted woollen cardigan, and you'll see what I mean).

This was a Bond who wasn't going to lift an eyebrow and shake a martini at another assassination attempt. He would brood, look bruised, and then pursue vengeance in a way that was frankly scary.

And he completely revitalised Bond, remaining the finest thing in the critically less well-received follow-up, Quantum of Solace.

So surely we can't let him be James for just one film longer than George Lazenby? Surely this, rather than bankers' huge bonuses or grounded aeroplanes, will propel protesters on to the streets?

As novelist Milly Johnson says: "He was the one I couldn't visualise as Bond. Now I can't see anyone else."

Yes, a lot of it is about sex appeal, but that is half the point of Bond. That's why women watch. How many female viewers do you hear getting wound up about who is going to star in the next Bourne Identity? So, who are the runners and riders being lined up to replace Craig?

Top odds go to someone called Sam Worthington – who apparently starred in Avatar. Orlando Bloom and Jude Law (12/1 and 33/1) are both terribly pretty, but can you really see them spitting blood and teeth to protect their woman? And then, at 100/1 we have Alex Reid. Yup, the self-styled Reidinator, and gurning love-puppy of Katie Price. It's enough to make you head for Iceland.

So come on, Ms Broccoli. Sort out the studio issues, and give us back Mr Craig. Failing that, I'll be voting for whichever political party promises a bail-out of MGM. I think it's a vote-winner.

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I nodded at the right lines.
Great sum up of my thoughts! :lol: :lol:
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Dunda wrote:I nodded at the right lines.
Great sum up of my thoughts! :lol: :lol:
Mine too! :D
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Dunda wrote:I nodded at the right lines.
Great sum up of my thoughts! :lol: :lol:
ITA with you, and with the novelist Milly Johnson quoted in theis great article - Sylvia's girl, thanks for posting it: How to perfectly convey in a few, witty, right-on-spot words what all of us felt while watching CR .
Has anyone read the novels written by Jojo Moyes? I never heard of her, but she's bo(u)nd to become one my fave authors :lol:
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Guardian recaps Bond 23's progress in satirical crib sheet
Bond 23 - 22-04-10

Pass notes No 2,767: James Bond

Age: 57.

Appearance: When last seen, exactly like actor Daniel Craig.

When last seen? How long ago was that? In 2008, in the film Quantum of Solace

We must be about due for another one soon. You'd think so, wouldn't you?

Why are you arching one eyebrow like that? Development of the 23rd Bond film in the franchise, due for release in 2011/12, has been suspended indefinitely.

How can this be? The studio responsible, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, is $3.7bn in the red and awaiting a buyer. Lions Gate and Time Warner have made offers, but MGM is holding out. Under these circumstances, producers decided to shelve the Bond movie.

Does this mean that 007 has been forcibly retired? Has Bond finally met his nemesis in the form of poorly structured debt and restricted cash flow? Probably not. The last Bond film made £382m, so somebody will want to adopt him.

Wasn't this next film going to be written by Peter Morgan of Frost/Nixon fame? Yes, but recently it was announced that he was no longer working on the script.

And wasn't Sam Mendes meant to be directing? Yes, but he never signed anything, so his involvement is in doubt.

Have you got a name for this ill-fated 23rd Bond outing? I think they were just calling it Bond 23; you know, as a sort of working title.

No, I meant a funny name. Oh, I see – something like: You Only Live 22 Times; or The Time Warner Bid Is Not Enough; or Live In Debt Lie.

No, I meant a funny name. Fine. I'll leave you with a list of Bond titles for a few hours and see how you do.

Do say: "No, Mr Bond. I expect you to find funding from another quarter and commence principal photography in due course."

Don't say: "No, Mr Bond. I expect you to die!"

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?ite ... mi6&s=news
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Who is she kidding?

http://blog.taragana.com/e/2010/04/22/a ... -2-112051/

LONDON - Former “Baywatch” star Pamela Anderson says that her dream role would be playing a Bond girl.

“Wouldn’t that be great to be a bond girl? I am going to start preparing for that possibility,” dailystar.co.uk quoted Anderson, 42, as saying.

She also says a role in the spy series is one of her life’s ambitions.

She obviously hasn't heard the news!
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Sylvia's girl wrote:From Jojo Moyes, who incidently was busy tweeting about it yesterday..
(see dc twitter thread)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film ... er-up.html
Great article!Thanks,Sylvia's girl! :D
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Sylvia's girl wrote:Who is she kidding?

http://blog.taragana.com/e/2010/04/22/a ... -2-112051/

LONDON - Former “Baywatch” star Pamela Anderson says that her dream role would be playing a Bond girl.

“Wouldn’t that be great to be a bond girl? I am going to start preparing for that possibility,” dailystar.co.uk quoted Anderson, 42, as saying.

She also says a role in the spy series is one of her life’s ambitions.
Now, that's the real joke of the day!
But wait, maybe... the villain could use her as a secret weapon: put her on a plane with JB and than hope that her giant implants will explode and thus blow up the aircraft :twisted:
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ishmael69 wrote:
Sylvia's girl wrote:Who is she kidding?

http://blog.taragana.com/e/2010/04/22/a ... -2-112051/

LONDON - Former “Baywatch” star Pamela Anderson says that her dream role would be playing a Bond girl.

“Wouldn’t that be great to be a bond girl? I am going to start preparing for that possibility,” dailystar.co.uk quoted Anderson, 42, as saying.

She also says a role in the spy series is one of her life’s ambitions.
Now, that's the real joke of the day!
But wait, maybe... the villain could use her as a secret weapon: put her on a plane with JB and than hope that her giant implants will explode and thus blow up the aircraft :twisted:
LOL :lol:
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Sylvia's girl wrote:From Jojo Moyes, who incidently was busy tweeting about it yesterday..
(see dc twitter thread)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film ... er-up.html

Oh Daniel! Say it isn't so! I had coped admirably with ruptured travel plans, and bore the lack of fresh fruit salad with fortitude. I was even holding up under the wearying onslaught of yah-booing grey men that constitutes election coverage. But news that we may have seen Daniel Craig's last Bond was enough to get me finally hyperventilating into my cornflakes.

With the future of Metro Goldwyn Mayer looking decidedly shaky, producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson announced this week that they were shelving the 23rd Bond film until MGM's financial problems were resolved.


Related Articles
MGM on the brink as James Bond is delayed
MGM: the thoughts of founder Samuel Goldwyn
Bond's future in doubt
Tintin: Daniel Craig and Jamie Bell to star in new Steven Spielberg film
Siena Palio tamed by health and safety rules
Men are redundant, but let's keep them anywayCraig said diplomatically that he had "every faith" in the decision. But industry insiders say that by the time shooting begins – 2012 at the earliest - Craig may walk, or worse, be considered "past it". William Hill yesterday offered odds of 8/1 that we have already seen the last of him as Bond.

I admit that when he was first mooted for the part, I was less than enthusiastic. How could festering Geordie Peacock from Our Friends In The North inhabit that iconic tuxedo with grace and élan? How could that thuggish visage expertly seduce women with ridiculously suggestive names? For this was a man apparently known even to his friends as "Mr Potato Head".

Fool that I was! For even as he emerged from the shadows in the opening scenes of Casino Royale I was a lost thing. By the time he broke the waves in those little blue trunks I may have inadvertently – and for the first time in my life – uttered the phrase "Hubba hubba". When he held Vesper Lynd brokenly in his arms, it was frankly a bit embarrassing being in the same room as my actual husband. And I know there are women nodding as they read this, because they have told me.

Casino Royale, it is fair to say, is not a date movie. Not unless your husband looks, sounds and behaves like Daniel Craig as James Bond.

It takes a serious dose of raw machismo to remain the object of female desire even while having one's testicles flayed from under a chair, but Craig managed it. Men liked his rough quality, the slight coarsening of the Bond franchise. Women just… yes, well. I think we've covered that.

Craig didn't look like the Bonds we had become used to; the slightly Man At C&A look of Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and even Piers Brosnan's Bonds. (Go on, imagine them in a belted woollen cardigan, and you'll see what I mean).

This was a Bond who wasn't going to lift an eyebrow and shake a martini at another assassination attempt. He would brood, look bruised, and then pursue vengeance in a way that was frankly scary.

And he completely revitalised Bond, remaining the finest thing in the critically less well-received follow-up, Quantum of Solace.

So surely we can't let him be James for just one film longer than George Lazenby? Surely this, rather than bankers' huge bonuses or grounded aeroplanes, will propel protesters on to the streets?

As novelist Milly Johnson says: "He was the one I couldn't visualise as Bond. Now I can't see anyone else."

Yes, a lot of it is about sex appeal, but that is half the point of Bond. That's why women watch. How many female viewers do you hear getting wound up about who is going to star in the next Bourne Identity? So, who are the runners and riders being lined up to replace Craig?

Top odds go to someone called Sam Worthington – who apparently starred in Avatar. Orlando Bloom and Jude Law (12/1 and 33/1) are both terribly pretty, but can you really see them spitting blood and teeth to protect their woman? And then, at 100/1 we have Alex Reid. Yup, the self-styled Reidinator, and gurning love-puppy of Katie Price. It's enough to make you head for Iceland.

So come on, Ms Broccoli. Sort out the studio issues, and give us back Mr Craig. Failing that, I'll be voting for whichever political party promises a bail-out of MGM. I think it's a vote-winner.

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I love every word of this article and relate to it 100%! :) Thanks to 'Sylvia's Girl' for posting. I must also thank {JEC57} and {GG} for their mature, intelligent and balanced insights into what has been going on these past few days. Your calming posts are very much appreciated by me and anybody else who might be freaking out! :wink: As for me, I have adopted the stance of trying to push it to the back of my mind. I have 'bigger fish to fry' in a personal sense and therefore, have more than enough to worry about. The notion that Sam Worthington could be the next Bond is laughable. He is an actor who has only got 'Avatar' and 'Titans' to thank for projecting him into the Hollywood stratosphere and neither film has proved his mettle as an actor who could be a worthy follow-on from Daniel. I've said it before and I'll say it again. DANIEL IS IRREPLACEABLE. Not just as Bond but as any bloomin' character he chooses to take on. That was the biggest freak-out for me when I first heard. It was as if somebody with greater power than me was snatching Daniel away for the sheer spite of it. It has already been such a long wait for him to return to the limelight (for somone who missed out on ASR in NYC), but now I guess I do feel a little more confident that he will not bail out of the Bond franchise just yet. Remember the closing lines to QOS?

M: Bond, we need you back.
Bond: I never left.

:)
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