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so we have the veronika girl behind, sastuki beside and andy cohen on other side..this at stella artois tennis during CR filming yes?[/quote]

Yes.... :D
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calypso wrote:
Guinness wrote:My friend's father used to race with Steve McQueen in California...she used to know him when she was a child. She didn't know he was famous or anything until she moved away and got older. Just interesting. The similarities are freaky. You gotto wonder if DC did photo shoots to emulate Steve ON PURPOSE because he was so cool. But i am out of my league here. Don't know. JMO (just my opinion)
maybe not all but some qos on set makes me wonder and a few others :shock:
Of course that exist many photos ON PURPOSE to achieve this effect. Greg Williams is a specialist in this kind of photos.

They are very similar, it´s true but always I felt with regard to the photos mounted to look like McQueen that is a way of not trusting in Daniel's own image, as if his own image was not sufficient. I don´t know
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so we have the veronika girl behind, sastuki beside and andy cohen on other side..this at stella artois tennis during CR filming yes?[/quote]

I CAN NOT SEE WHAT you are talking about here....and it sounds VERY interesting!!!! anyone???
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Faustine wrote:
calypso wrote:
Guinness wrote:My friend's father used to race with Steve McQueen in California...she used to know him when she was a child. She didn't know he was famous or anything until she moved away and got older. Just interesting. The similarities are freaky. You gotto wonder if DC did photo shoots to emulate Steve ON PURPOSE because he was so cool. But i am out of my league here. Don't know. JMO (just my opinion)
maybe not all but some qos on set makes me wonder and a few others :shock:
Of course that exist many photos ON PURPOSE to achieve this effect. Greg Williams is a specialist in this kind of photos.

They are very similar, it´s true but always I felt with regard to the photos mounted to look like McQueen that is a way of not trusting in Daniel's own image, as if his own image was not sufficient. I don´t know
Or it could be Greg's laziness in not looking for different poses. OR it could be Greg using the same style becasue it is what works. "trusting in Daniels own image"...hmm. that is a good way of describing that. I was disappointed when my head started connecting or matching the same photos! that old motorcycle ride in Q of S was NOT an accident. Do artists borrow from each other? I guess the medium they use, but not the same shot. Who decides this, the artist or the person paying the artist?
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Guinness wrote:
Faustine wrote:
calypso wrote: maybe not all but some qos on set makes me wonder and a few others :shock:
Of course that exist many photos ON PURPOSE to achieve this effect. Greg Williams is a specialist in this kind of photos.

They are very similar, it´s true but always I felt with regard to the photos mounted to look like McQueen that is a way of not trusting in Daniel's own image, as if his own image was not sufficient. I don´t know
Or it could be Greg's laziness in not looking for different poses. OR it could be Greg using the same style becasue it is what works. "trusting in Daniels own image"...hmm. that is a good way of describing that. I was disappointed when my head started connecting or matching the same photos! that old motorcycle ride in Q of S was NOT an accident. Do artists borrow from each other? I guess the medium they use, but not the same shot. Who decides this, the artist or the person paying the artist?
well they say imitation sincerest form of flattery but i agree, many poses are very contrived to resemble mcqueen
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calypso wrote:
Guinness wrote:
Faustine wrote: Of course that exist many photos ON PURPOSE to achieve this effect. Greg Williams is a specialist in this kind of photos.

They are very similar, it´s true but always I felt with regard to the photos mounted to look like McQueen that is a way of not trusting in Daniel's own image, as if his own image was not sufficient. I don´t know
Or it could be Greg's laziness in not looking for different poses. OR it could be Greg using the same style becasue it is what works. "trusting in Daniels own image"...hmm. that is a good way of describing that. I was disappointed when my head started connecting or matching the same photos! that old motorcycle ride in Q of S was NOT an accident. Do artists borrow from each other? I guess the medium they use, but not the same shot. Who decides this, the artist or the person paying the artist?
well they say imitation sincerest form of flattery but i agree, many poses are very contrived to resemble mcqueen
whew! I knew I wasn't going insane by myself!! It's like you look at some of the photos of DC and say "daja vui" or did i see this in a different dimension or too much crack last night? I don't agree with this type of imitation. Photographers are supposed to be artists. Artists create originals, not imitations.
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As far as I can see many of the comparative photos are not DC photo shoots but film stills, with the QoS bike shots being the stand out. I think sometimes we do like to make mountains out of molehills as he doesn't look much like Steve in the majority of the photos anyway.

If Daniel was trying to project Steve McQueen, we'd soon spot the faked posturing. They have similar mannerisms, rugged looks and both are predominantly jeans and t-shirt guys but I think that's as far as it goes as their personalities are also quite different. Photos just captures the similarities of two men who have an innate way of carrying themselves who are proud and unapologetic alpha males.
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honeyjes wrote:As far as I can see many of the comparative photos are not DC photo shoots but film stills, with the QoS bike shots being the stand out. I think sometimes we do like to make mountains out of molehills as he doesn't look much like Steve in the majority of the photos anyway.

If Daniel was trying to project Steve McQueen, we'd soon spot the faked posturing. They have similar mannerisms, rugged looks and both are predominantly jeans and t-shirt guys but I think that's as far as it goes as their personalities are also quite different. Photos just captures the similarities of two men who have an innate way of carrying themselves who are proud and unapologetic alpha males.
noone is arguing that point either but i do think greg premeditated some pictures but at end of day, we see what we see in pictures and it is all upto each seperate person yes?
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hmm

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Opinion is welcomed. Very good HJ! However, we are discussing, not posturing wrong or correct way of a personal perspective. Let us keep our own perspective-subjective as it may be. I am not sure I appreciate the defence of Daniel's uniqueness here. You don't know him or his decisions and what he wants to emulate or how or why he wants to dress. I am questioning it in my opinion becasue i don't know him and that is what we do here. Question and observe and learn. cheers.
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Guinness wrote:Opinion is welcomed. Very good HJ! However, we are discussing, not posturing wrong or correct way of a personal perspective. Let us keep our own perspective-subjective as it may be. I am not sure I appreciate the defence of Daniel's uniqueness here. You don't know him or his decisions and what he wants to emulate or how or why he wants to dress. I am questioning it in my opinion becasue i don't know him and that is what we do here. Question and observe and learn. cheers.
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Guinness wrote:
calypso wrote:
Guinness wrote: Or it could be Greg's laziness in not looking for different poses. OR it could be Greg using the same style becasue it is what works. "trusting in Daniels own image"...hmm. that is a good way of describing that. I was disappointed when my head started connecting or matching the same photos! that old motorcycle ride in Q of S was NOT an accident. Do artists borrow from each other? I guess the medium they use, but not the same shot. Who decides this, the artist or the person paying the artist?
well they say imitation sincerest form of flattery but i agree, many poses are very contrived to resemble mcqueen
whew! I knew I wasn't going insane by myself!! It's like you look at some of the photos of DC and say "daja vui" or did i see this in a different dimension or too much crack last night? I don't agree with this type of imitation. Photographers are supposed to be artists. Artists create originals, not imitations.
Lately there are done many photos of in actors imitating classic actors (Downey, Clooney) but it is a certain session. Well, think in George and his mutation towards Cary Grant..... I don't know.

The thread reflects both things: undoubtedly they are very similar physically, in his face and especially in his body. It does not happen with Damian Lewis, for example, that he has a face very similar to McQueen but his body is much more stylized. I will never be able to imagine McQueen with a few so long legs ... and neither I could imagine Daniel as Ted Hughes ... for the inverse reason.

And also I believe that there exists Williams's aesthetic decision to accentuate seemed between Daniel and McQueen.

And certainly of QoS´s ride scene is not accidental. Forster copy part of a scene from Goldfinger (in the scene of Fields's death) .... why not to use the well-known similitude between McQueen and Daniel?
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Faustine wrote:
Guinness wrote:
calypso wrote: well they say imitation sincerest form of flattery but i agree, many poses are very contrived to resemble mcqueen
whew! I knew I wasn't going insane by myself!! It's like you look at some of the photos of DC and say "daja vui" or did i see this in a different dimension or too much crack last night? I don't agree with this type of imitation. Photographers are supposed to be artists. Artists create originals, not imitations.
Lately there are done many photos of in actors imitating classic actors (Downey, Clooney) but it is a certain session. Well, think in George and his mutation towards Cary Grant..... I don't know.

The thread reflects both things: undoubtedly they are very similar physically, in his face and especially in his body. It does not happen with Damian Lewis, for example, that he has a face very similar to McQueen but his body is much more stylized. I will never be able to imagine McQueen with a few so long legs ... and neither I could imagine Daniel as Ted Hughes ... for the inverse reason.

And also I believe that there exists Williams's aesthetic decision to accentuate seemed between Daniel and McQueen.

And certainly of QoS´s ride scene is not accidental. Forster copy part of a scene from Goldfinger (in the scene of Fields's death) .... why not to use the well-known similitude between McQueen and Daniel?
Exactly. thank you. (I almost shit when I saw her lying on the bed in oil.) Nicely said that i couldnt get out. ~g
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There was an article in the german Gala, a rather large mag about the bio on McQueen and that apart from Daniel - now sit down - Brad Pitt and Jude Law plus someone I don´t recall are on the list. :shock:
The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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Germangirl wrote:There was an article in the german Gala, a rather large mag about the bio on McQueen and that apart from Daniel - now sit down - Brad Pitt and Jude Law plus someone I don´t recall are on the list. :shock:
the third is Paul Bettany :wink:
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Dunda wrote:
Germangirl wrote:There was an article in the german Gala, a rather large mag about the bio on McQueen and that apart from Daniel - now sit down - Brad Pitt and Jude Law plus someone I don´t recall are on the list. :shock:
the third is Paul Bettany :wink:
Aha - and what do you think? I am not even sure, if I even would want him to do that film. But he would surely be the best they could choose, like this thread shows very clearly. Its much more the attitude than the looks.
The top notch acting in the Weisz/Craig/Spall 'Betrayal' is emotionally true, often v funny and its beautifully staged with filmic qualities..

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